to be repeated over and over again. this is something similar to -- it's like a concentration camp guard in world war ii who said, wait a minute, it wasn't my fault. somebody made me do it. but nobody made him do it. he choose to do it himself and he chose to rio fend against them 13,000 some plus days over and over again. he had a choice every day to turn them loose. he knew what he was doing. now i just don't want to engage in any psychological executions. i think supreme to take responsibility for themselves and when societal louse somebody to blame others, i think that's where we start to break down. >> clint, luke russert here in burbank. i have a question regarding the psyche of the victims. >> yeah. >> there was last week where amanda berry stood up at a nelli