landscape. you think about this concept of whether this is american decline or something much more temporary and narrow. >> neither. it's not american decline. it's class. we've had a lot of discussion about race on the show today. to me the class divide is greater than the education divide. you're not seeing decline, you've got intact family structures, rising incomes, you're fine. if you're in the lesser class, you're seeing collapsing social structures, 70% of african-american kids born out of wedlock, high percent of poor white kids. you see this collapse of order on the bottom. if you were born in a certain class, you just go along the tracks, and you're okay. >> you know what, david, that's n inconsistent with the lower class. i think the class divide combined with the race divide is