no, no. no, no, no. >> that's it. no, no, no. >> you dare not change it. it's too good. >> think of the possibilities. >> james, every time i meet an actor i am in love with and think is great and you meet them and realize, somebody once said this of cary grant, you met cary grant and you wish you hadn't met him because he isn't cary grant. nobody can be cary grant in real life, because you need a line, a great moment, you need a scene. you need a camera. what was he like as opposed to his character? >> are you talking about cary grant or james gandolfini? >> let's go with the more immediate question. james gandolfini. >> what was he like? he was absolutely what you see on the screen there. he was himself. he was never anything but himself. >> you mean in your show, on your show. >> that's correct. >> that's right. remember that my show is a master class and a master's degree program at pace university. he was there to teach, and he taught our students -- we've been on 19 years.