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been able to access them. i mean, his job as he describes it as we know so far was to make sure the i.t., the information technology computer systems were working correctly. just like in the bradley manning case. he should not have had access to all the state department cables. he was an analyst on a given topic, but he had access to things way off that topic. and i think what we're seeing is the government still struggling to figure out how to get that right, how to share information with those that need to know and how to not share it and not let it out with people who have no need to know. >> dana, here he is in that interview with the guardian where snowden raised some eyebrows certainly about making that claim. let's watch. >> anybody in the positions of access with the technical capabilities that i had could, you know, suck out secrets and pass them on the open market to russia. they always have an open door as we do. i had access to you know, the

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