>> i think you're right, it was difficult and it was difficult to be a woman in a man's world in the conservative party in those days did not have many leading figures who were women. as well as the many who had come from the etonian background. so i think she had to stand up for herself in a very determined way. she had to make her views felt. sometimes for some of her cabinet colleagues she did that too forcefully. but she did break the glass ceiling that perhaps existed in british politics and i think that's opened the way to a lot of people since. >> we have a very special guest on the phone from california is former first lady, nancy reagan. mrs. reagan, our condolences because i know how special margaret thatcher was to you, the fact that she travelled to california after you left the white house and even for the funeral of ronald reagan. >> there was lots of trips at that time. for the funeral. for the funeral in washington, and then out to california.