successful. the nation has a food issue every year. 20 years ago it didn't have the role in our culture that food does now. >> right, it's definitely become part of pop culture. in studio 54 and stuff like that. eventually woke up from their cocaine high and decided they needed another form of entertainment, but they still wanted to go out. so they gravitated towards restaurants. >> that was my discussion with top chef star. thank you for joining us today for "up". join us tomorrow and we'll have the discussion no one else had about the death of hugo chavez. plus my favor discussion about the character narrative of barack obama. join me every weeknight at 8:00 eastern for the new program, all in with chris hayes. steve kornacki is replacing me starting next weekend, saturday april 13th. coming up next is melissa