the basic argument we've been since this rise began in two thourk you have to understand in the 1990s, we cannot have that kind of sustain rise. the numbers bounced around. it is a pretty simple thing. our racial demographics in this country. right around 2000, you saw every major hate group in this country, klan groups, they decided their real number weren't african-americans but latinos. there was a simple reason for that. in 2000, the u.s. census bureau reported in 2042, whites would go into the minority. if you're a white supremacist, that scares the heck out of you. they began focusing all their efforts on latinos and latinos are the demographic threat from their perspective. that has been helping to build their ranks. and the anti-green back lash has been part of that, too. >> so when people who are not