lady dln clinton always looks at her best when she's talking issues. children, education. things like that. i don't think she's especially great at the hammer and tongue of politics. the nasty stuff. >> her husband's better. >> yeah. so maybe what they want to do is shorten the field to one or two opponents. not give her any threat. make sure martin o'malley doesn't run against them, make sure joe biden doesn't run against them. make sure andrew doesn't run against them from new york. run against a couple skinny guys who don't mean anything. but you'll win. is that the plan? if bill's tough, i'm arguing, hillary doesn't have to be so tough. >> he's sending a signal -- >> can you answer that question? is that -- >> bill should be the tough guy. he's doing the right thing. >> look, you have -- >> you know what mickey cohen once said? if you have a dog, you don't have to bark. >> you have the right moniker. he's the advance man. >> thank you, guys. michael steele. up next, we all know we live in a polarized time today. you know what? it used to be worse. wait until you hear about the years before world war ii. we're going to talk about that. lindbergh. boy is that a lightning rod. i just said it. charles lindbergh. a lot of people are already listening to that. we'll be right back.