republicans have been attacking them because their budget doesn't balance over ten years. the budget shouldn't balance over ten years. >> i think you hit a key point. it's all about growth. you can grow your way out of deficits. we saw it during the clinton administration. it's also about looking at how far we've come. if you actually look at what we've already done in terms of getting deficit under control, if you look at the budget control act, if you look at the tax increases from the end of last year, and all of the interest savings associated with that, we're actually two-thirds of the way to a grand bargain without the sequester. what we have in this country is not so much a deficit problem as a health care spending problem. inflation and health care spending has been a little bit compressed recently. over the long haul, that's the problem. that's why it's so disappointing that that's still an issue again and again to move forward on health care. >> haven't the republicans been successful in a sense, they've gotten washington to essentially only focus on deficit and debt. >> joy i want to read a quote from the "washington post" yesterday. president obama now finds