state of the union address. advocated for raising the minimum wage, infrastructure, all things i think to help the middle class and working class. what sort of middle class proposals are you looking for from this president? >> well, i do think the problem with the sequester to bring it -- not just back to that, it cuts a lot of discretionary pieces of the fwhaugt are in good investments, provide equal opportunity and so cutting those and being unwilling, completely unwilling to reform entitlements and taken that off the table -- >> he also talked, though, in the state of the union specifically about reforming entitlements and offered several proposals and said anything that he's offered is still on the table. but he wants in exchange for that some willingness to close the loophole that is you yourself have said should be closed. >> well, so the question would be, do you call his bluff and then say, where are the reforms? our budget and debt and deficit fall on the backs of middle class.