programs that are going to be cut, and also the travel appeal. i mean, that's what is going to affect people the most. when business travelers are knocked out for six or seven hours because of logistics, that's going to get a lot of people's attention. but jindal says he is just scaring americans. what about that? >> i think it's great that the president is going out, speaking directly to the american people about simply what is government and what actually are the millions of different ways that what we do together that we can't do ourselves is actually really helping us on a day-to-day basis. because if he were to stay in washington, he would really be surrounded by the beltway donor class, which is who we know is actually pushing the austerity agenda. affluent americans who make up the donor class is twice as likely to want to push an austerity agenda, to want to protect from tax cuts, want to push for changes to entitlements. so we really need the president to be doing exactly what he is doing, which is going out to people who are close to the ground, talking to the american people directly, talking to the governors and say you know what?