we are back and continuing the conversation about the future of the catholic church. joining me now are father james martin, jesuit priest and editor at large at american magazine and also with me is sister camille de'arienz soshgs president of the women e's coalition and also joining me are ari melber, and so we were joking at the break, we need the black folks and the jewish folks at the table to talk about it. but this is part of the letter, because the catholic church is one thing for the believer, but the fact is that the catholic church is a global institution that impacts all of us that are in fact not part of the catholic