we have talked a lot on this show about where the gop will move following the 2012 election and they there may not be a clear answer for a while. one possibility is a civil war in the next round of primaries in 2014 between the establishment and conservative true believers and over the weekend that possibility advanced with the news of a wealthy group of establishment types led by a super pac and associated with karl rove launching the conservative victory project. the idea to prevent the party base from nominating the todd arins and richard mourdocks with head leans and squandered races republicans otherwise would have won last two elections. let's back spin on this. i guess there's a lot we can say here but i do think we're kind of heading toward a civil war moment of the republican party. >> sure. >> to explode in these congressional and really senate primaries in 2014. because you have sort of