patrick. it's a real strong testament that he chose to go. a lot of people are just appointed that barney frank didn't get the appointment. >> he wanted it. he came out publically. and it was a testament that he wouldn't get push into apointing someone. and i think it's a profound statement. i expect do see moe cowan be a champion for justice and opportunity. >> snou, hee eel be there until june. he says he's not running. tim scott will probably run. an african american was in a position to take a lot of shots as the president. does cowan count a balance? >> he does. and i think he gives african americans and all americans, truthly.