>> celso, what is your hope on where this ends up? >> i want to put it in perspective, based on obama's speech. based on the deportation numbers, 400,000 families get separated. 19 families were separated while he spoke. this needs to add real urgency to the fact that families are being separated as we speak right now. so we really need to make sure the president and congress is serious about creating a solution for the community that is here right now, suffering under the current enforcement-only policies that are currently in existence right now. >> joy reid, richard wolff and celso, thank you for joining us. >> first, one of the leaders of the bipartisan group, marco rubio calls into rush limbaugh's radio show. and now i don't have any idea what rush limbaugh thinks about