count them out. they're the most bizarre team. they have a career record under tom coughlin of 14-21 in the month of november. so they always look really bad going into the stretch run of the year. yet tom coughlin's a disciple of bill parcells, and bill parcells always said the nfl soap is a marathon and not a sprint. and he always seems to prime them for that last month. the proof is in the pudding. so i think one would have to be a fool or a sports writer for "the nation" magazine to ever count out the new york giants. >> so let's talk about a guy that i could not have been more wrong about. i'm not a big fan of pac-10 quarterbacks coming to the nfl because there have been so many failures, andrew luck has proven me wrong. that guy is having a great season. >> unbelievable. he's third in the nfl in third-down passing. and that is unheard of. >> wow. >> for a rookie. and think about all the great quarterbac quarterbacks, the mannings, the bradys, third in third-down