crossroads was coordinating with these other groups -- >> because could you. that's legal. >> but here's the thing. by the end of the campaign, people trusted mitt romney on issues of the economy so we believe that our job was done. the glut of our ads was on jobs, the debt and that sector -- >> you guys focused on mitt romney. you guys never did focus on mitt romney. why? >> we focused on the record of president obama, what we said was the failed economic record -- >> in hindsight -- >> it worked. what a super pac can't do is push the candidate over the line. the candidate has to get his own positive result. it is very, very difficult for a super pac to do an effective positive ad. that's just kind of outside of what we do. >> think it sounds like you're both going to be fully employed. bill burton, jonathan collegio. we're going to try do autopsies on this election, today in "first read" we have a great nugget on the i-4 longer a swin? data says that may be case.