the hearing is penn's one chance to change their minds. >> recommendation is post man one based on the physical assault on a staff member that results in mandatory referral for review. do you have anything to say to ict about this? >> yes, sir. i had some lab work to get done. we get back, it's about 3:30ish. he told me to cuff up. i told him i wanted to speak to the captain and not cuff up. he said, no, you cuff up now. i said i would look to speak to the captain. before i cuff up at all. he put his hand on me. it took off from there. i understand you gentlemen are the authority figures and i respect that to the utmost here. but i am also a man while i'm still in blue. he put his hands on me as a man, i felt i had a right to defend myself as a man. it wasn't a custodial touch. he grabbed me by my neck. i'm sorry. i am a man. i have to defend myself, gentlemen. >> did the officer order you to place your hands behind your back and submit to hand restraints? >> yes, he did. >> did you comply with the officer's orders? >> no, sir.
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