reaching women voters especially in ohio. >> what we've done is reformed education, working with governors, 46 states. >> let me get back to foreign policy. >> listen -- >> can i get back -- >> i need to speak a moment if you'll let me, bob. i was a governor the federal government didn't hire our teachers. but i love teachers. but i want to get our private sector growing and i know how to do it. >> i think we all love teachers. >> we all do love teachers. joining me michael feldman, democratic strategist and former adviser to al gore and "washington post" columnist michael gerson former adviser to george bush. you've dundee bait -- you've done debate prep even against each other. >> thanks for pointing that out. >> what did you see last night that surprised you or, you know, confirmed your feelings about where we stand two weeks out? >> i think both candidates