they brought us whole binders full of women. >> when governor romney's campaign was asked about the lilly ledbetter bill whether he supported it, he said i'll get back to you. >> let's bring in kiki mcclain and chip saltsman. good morning. kiki, let me start with you. is too much being made of this whole binders full of women thing? >> binders full of women is just a symbol, a place to talk about what was and wasn't in the debate last night. they want to see a more trusting relationship with romney that they don't feel like they have right now. i do some work on the project and had the privilege of watching dial groups. and in some ways they weren't feeling the real details that they wanted from either candidate. but they certainly feel a more