lower rates. make it a better tax climate for everyone, for everyone and make sure that we get people to work. a regulatory climate where small businesses want to thrive and grow. it's been the opposite as the president, i would say he tried, but his policies failed. >> let me end on one issue that's important to us as nbc news, that's the issue of education, a big summit we're beginning, "education nation" today. >> thank you for doing that. >> it's important, we certainly are committed to it part of that is a conversation with president obama, that "the today show's" savannah guthrie conducted. i want to play a portion of that about where the political debate is now. >> mitt romney said that president obama has chosen his side in this fight. that you sided with the unions. and another time last spring, he said he can't talk of reform while indulging in groups that block it. >> well, you know, i think governor romney and a numb of folks try to politicize the issue and do a lot of teacher-bashing. when i meet teachers all across