religiosity. we speak it the same way we do. it's very comfortable to us. as a republican, and and respect to same-sex marriage, with faith-based religion, joe can speak to about it. the question becomes quite frankly and this is a larger philosophical conversation, can we have a conversation where we respectfully disagree and have a conversation, and quite frankly, you say tomato, i say tomato, and we see things fundamentally different. >> can we have a conversation and work together? that's the real challenge. our country is so divided, so fractured that people see it as -- you are either for me or against me, either on my side or on the other side. and my whole point, why can't we work together? >> part of the problem, robert, to your point, we all hear things differently and one of my biggest frustrations, and that's this dog whistle politics that is reintroduced. when mitt romney makes this joke about his birth certificate, he

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