already, and then comes thanksgiving, and now there's more bodies, and we're scared to death to even go out. because we're going to come home after dark, and we have to debate, well, should i go to grandma's this year or not? >> the thanksgiving in 1977 was incredible. it was bizarre. the media just went -- they went crazy with this case, like, you know, nude victims, obvious sexual assault, and somebody coined the phrase -- >> the hillside strangler. >> the hillside strangler. >> the hillside strangler. >> to this day, i don't know who coined that. i don't know how. somebody in the media named that, and that creates more panic. >> somebody called it the hillside strangler, and all of the sudden, this was real. it had a name, and you could almost see the kind of monster that was lurking out there, preying on your wives and daughters. >> as soon as it was even like this time of night, we were in