postal service and others do their job so that envelope ebnd up in the counting room. >> isn't there also a black church tradition of going to vote after church? >> there really is. there was a meeting in cincinnati today, at the hamilton county board of elections even though it had little to discuss after the secretary's directive yesterday, but nearly 200 people jammed in to that meeting and there were a number of black ministers who said, you can cut back the hou s s but i guarantee you we're going to bring the buses down to the boards of election. you're going to see us no matter how compressed the timetable is. >> so they're going to stand at the closed doors and try to vote? >> well, the extended hours that the secretary announced yesterday during the first three weeks of october will keep boards of election open until 5:00 and final two weeks before the election until 7:00. the law is if you're in line at 6:59 p.m., you can have 1,000 people in line. those 1,000 will be counted. so there may be a way to effectively extend the evening hours, even though the hours, as the secretary approved, are less