they were felons. they would have bastards all over the country, not pay a dime into child support and they just liked to preach all this higher nobility but nobody wanted to practice anything. >> at the nordic fest where they met, julie says she witnessed skinheads and clan members having sex with underage girls. >> actually, there was two tents with girls in there. and the guys kept going in and taking turns having sex with them. they were running trains on the girls. and so in my mind, what i thought, these men do not give a crap about age. they don't care of, you know, there's no, you know, she is, you know, an aryan woman. we must honor her and treasure the woman. there is none of that. it's ridiculous. they don't care. >> when she told me about it, the thing was, i wasn't surprised at all. and at that point, i had already been a skinhead for about 15, 16 years. nothing was shocking anymore. >> i myself had a girl that was 14 then.