and he was undisciplined and i would add a third factor which is there was too much traffic among conservatives, too many choices on the far right and in my view that's what allowed mitt romney to escape with the nomination. >> we heard that, steve, conservatives trying to pressure at one point newt gingrich to get out of the race so that as rick santorum's camp liked to say they could go one-on-one with mitt romney. the bottom line, though, i am looking at here is that, steve, you got a frail presumptive nominee in mitt romney, a guy you and other conservatives like yourself. steve, you just still don't like him and when you look at these blows that santorum landed as well as newt gingrich, the people who say they were the true conservatives in the race, how does your presumptive nominee survive from these things? >> to me, you bought it, you break it, you own it. this is what the party wanted so i think it is a question for them. you have karl rove who tried to engineer romney's core nation