stuff. >> right. >> you, like me, are optimistic that this transition will be an incredible thing that will not happen in new york or washington. it's going to happen away in the actual country. it is happening. >> where it's already happening, and it is happening in new york, just not where you think of. in order to be optimistic, u to look past the next valley -- >> or the risk. the risk you can't do anything about, anyway. this is the risk. >> the ugly changes that have taken place have been the lack of accountability of government, two individuals, the absolutely destroying of the taxpayer. the positive things going on out in the real world, which could have an effect on politics, it's already having an effect on the economy and technology -- >> and in communities where this is happening. >> is the next generation of entrepreneurs. i was just at a conference two weeks ago out in california, anç