process in june, when the last thing happens in utah, nobody has 1,144 then, have you two months of wrangling, romney trying to get the republican equivalent of superdelegates to come out. cut a deal with ron paul, gingrich something, to get him over the top. we've had attempts at mischief. 1976, '80, '84. it never got to a second ballot. it was resolved in the summer and that's still possible too. >> how is that likely to turn out? as a matter of political history, we don't have a powerful broker to come in and kind of get the jelly beans in line, right? we don't have a daley in that sense. but we have had some sort of brokered types of conventions in recent history. how has that turned out for candidates? >> not well. the short answer, it hasn't turned out well. steve is exactly right. once we get to august, we get to convention time, what will generally see is thee ratrics, everything will be worked out