and in milwaukee, we have deborah crawford whose 77-year-old mother betty jones is one of the lead plaintiffs in that case. betty's voted in every election since 1956. today she can't get voter i.d. in wisconsin. great to have both of you with us. judith? let me start with you. i want to talk about this lawsuit. but first, what do you make of this lawmaker who got caught redhanded in wisconsin voting for his absent colleague? >> you know, reverend sharpton, you have done a great job over the last month -- few months showing the republican party getting caught with their hand in the cookie jar. the hypocrisy of this, the folks who talk about election integrity and talk about trying to stop voter fraud caught redhanded doing it themselves time and time again. just like the case in maryland