played the games. >> thank you, harry. some of that is incidental. tony, you said you disagreed with some of what you heard in the previous segment about a lot of it not being intentional. >> absolutely. i'm sitting backstage and looking at you guys saying, i've never played a player that didn't want to knock me out of the game or intentionally try to hurt me. i'm saying yeah, right. are you kidding me? that was part of the -- especially when we came in the -- the new rules dictate that's frowned upon. but players do it every once in a while. before, that was encouraged. i remember when i was coming up, we watched crunch course. i don't know if anybody saw that in the day. it's these hard hits. i remember lonnie lott saying if you get a guy across the middle and you can hit him so hard that the crowd goes ooh, that's what you want. when i came into the league, there's a guy sitting right over there, name is rodney harrison, right there, and i know rodney that you were trying to come