financing. if you look at equity informsment in this country, it's very hard in that market. almost impossible to come by. that's where new business starts. lloyd chapman is the founder of the american small business league. it's an independent small business advocacy agency. what policy changes could we entertain this year that could spur a resurrection of that investment into that critical cradl cradle-making ecosystem that is this formative place that's not getting the investment that it needs. >> i think a really basic thing is to existing federal laws. federal law says 23% of government contracts should go to small businesses. there's been 20 investigations that show most of the money goes to fortune 500 firms. there's another law under