to have the same will that germany has. they decided they were going to keep a high-wage society and be able to export manufacturing products. so they do that. that's their policy. the united states doesn't have such a policy, an export policy. so we need that. we need trade laws. trade -- different trade laws. when you have china that cheats on currency and gets a 40% advantage over an american producer, you're disadvantaged. when they don't comply with their health safety laws, children laws, prison laws, they get another advantage. and then we need tax laws. if you reward somebody for taking jobs overseas, you're going to encourage -- >> we'll put those aside. now, you and i both know a business in germany, a business in japan, a business in europe is going to come to america and try to find the most competitive workplace environment. they're going to look at good tax laws, they're going to look at energy costs and they're going to make sure they're not going to be killed by workplace