he spear headed the lempverage. that's what wh you go into debt to get a company to turn it around. >> the interesting thing is in doing that, he's taking loans from the executives that currently run the obama economic team. my favorite part is you look at jack lou, people are piling on mitt romney. >> there's no bad choice. it's all wonderful. all the corporate people in the country like exxon mobile. >> new figures showing it's harder and harder to move up the ladder in america. now below that of england and france. we like to make fun of france for these things, and now it's easier to get ahead in france. >> that's fine.