i don't blame him at all, he's been savaged in the media by mitt romney and he has a right to respond. >> karen, i would say senator santorum came out of iowa with a bunch of momentum, he had a good 36 hours and then it seemed uneven events, getting to the high school student -- i. >> i think you're talking about the college convention and that was a setup. i mean those were college occupiers. >> you're weigh the lines down a little bit. >> he knew he was going to get that kind of a question, any conservative can expect that kind of a question coming out because it's one that's meant to divide and senator santorum has tried to reason with that student. >> you wish he didn't take the bait, then? >> you have no choice but to take the bait at that point and you have to talk to him and these students, i was actually there, these students were not willing to reason and they were