romney folks would say. i think that's important. >> do you think he has to go after romney's record? most of us weren't aware that the massachusetts health care plan provided funding for aboring services. most people would say they're for abortion rights but not for funding by the government. this does get him into a thicket there as a republican doesn't it? >> but, chris, that's not new. that claim has been out there and, you know, the flip flop on the life issue, that's been out there and i do think that, you know, the further south we go the governor is going to have to answer some of those questions. but tonight the story to me is not that newt gingrich might come in third or fourth or that rick santorum is the 23 or poll is at 23%. i think that is a real ceiling that romney, that he's dealing with, 23% and 25%. >> we've been noticing that. >> go back four years. two well funded, well organized campaigns, he's not gotten beyond that 23 --