newt gingrich in south carolina. and so it's a waterloo for gingrich as to whether he can stay alive or not in the campaign. but the resources are coming in to santorum, everything's lining up for him. timing is everything. and of course the weather's good. romney, look, romney got 30,000 votes, just over 30 how to in the last caucus. i think santorum's going to get 35,000, 36,000 and win it. >> you mentioned newt gingrich. he said earlier, downplaying expectations game, that he doesn't think he can win tonight and apparently some people on his staff got pretty upset with him about that because people go to these caucuses and they change their mind, their influence, they want to go with the winner. did he make a mistake trying to downplay expectations and telling people i'm not going to win? >> well, when you look at mitt romney, he's looking at the long haul. he's viewing this as a marathon and not a sprint. this is more of a sprint for santorum. but along the way, the culture