were welcoming us with roses. they thought we were going to have democracy and development. the first six months after the invasion, america had iraqis and then it just continued to deteriorate, a process of lacking in he discussion of hearing the local population and what they are saying. >> that's part of the problem. >> i just want to say, this gets to a very deep, important issue in terms of what we learned from iraq, which is, was it the fruit of a rotten tree or was it that the implementation went wrong somewhere? >> i think it was a rotten tree and it was implemented terribly wrong? >> i think the rotten tree part of it is crucial. >> i think zainab is certainly right. there were many iraqis that were thrilled at overthrowing a dictatorship. that's not something forgotten but not known across the united states. >> there is the iconic photo of