ideologically purer conservative than romney or huntsman in their view? a big chunk of the party. >> a lot of them will stay home. >> let me tell you something. mitt romney, i've talked to a lot of conservatives who were so offended, gene, through the years by his flip-flops that they swear they will not vote for him. >> they also said the same thing about dole. they also said the same thing about mccain and, yes, conservatives stayed home, gene. they do do it don't they? >> well, they do. it certainly seems they do. look, i have trouble kind of understanding. mitt romney is a pretty conservative guy as far as i'm concerned. >> he is this year. >> yes, this year. but i really have been surprised for months now at this antipathy