45. there it is again. joining us now is scott ross, executive director of one wisconsin now which has had a lot of experience with the americans for prosperity organization there, mostly for being on the opposite side of both issues for them. thank you for joining us tonight. >> good evening, rachel. >> herman cain's campaign manager, mark block, was most recently the state director for the wisconsin chapter of afp. how much overlap do you see between that experience, the afp experience, and running republican election campaigns? >> well, i think from top to bottom, whether it's the staff that herman cain has hired to run his campaign, the astroturf way in which they're running the campaign. and most importantly and most sinister the message of the campaign. this pro corporate, pro regressive tax policy. one of the worst ideas that this nation has ever seen in terms of really taking money out of the