to defend george w. bush it's not going to happen. he's one of the reasons i got involved in politics. i didn't like the way he was taking the party. but you go back and look at 2005. and you raise a really good point but what you forget what the overall debt was of this nation in 2005, $5 trillion or $6 trillion. we're looking at $14 trillion. world literally has changed. there's studies coming out that maybe say fiscal stimulus doesn't have as much impact as it might if you're in a low debt situation as it does during a high debt situation so there's a lot of good reasons to be for something six or seven years ago and against something today. we've also got the benefit of hindsight. been through a huge stimulus just two years ago and it didn't work. we spent $850 billion. reverend, that's enough to -- >> but we saw that stimulus when it was going on, congressman, we saw unemployment begin to go down. jobs going up, and we've looked at your plan, the republican plan, and we are seeing even let me give you one of your own republicans.