there are an awful lot of people who gave their hearts and souls to sarah, who talked in the film who i think would have done anything for her. but then she turned. and i think that's why a lot of people came forward. they were frightened about her having some real power. >> and the -- she clamped down on friends of hers, told them, don't cooperate with this guy. you encountered that, right? >> i think also there was a genuine fear. it's a small evangelical community and the church is incredibly powerful. >> did they think you are the antichrist? did they ever -- anyone ever accuse you of that? >> no, they didn't. i was on best behavior, on non-antichrist behavior there. no, i got along very well with the people, very hospitable. there was a fear in wasilla, you do not want to cross the palins. you lose your job and you have a hard time. >> now, if you had gotten the friends and the family and those people, it must have been her belief that you just wouldn't have presented them fairly. >> well, we did actually talk to