explain. kerry, south carolina obviously a very important state as we move forward watching where the gop hopefuls go. but he has made two trips there in three weeks. how crucial is it to make very firm end roads there? >> reporter: well, you can tell how hard rick perry is working his state. he's appearing with representative tim scott, who's an influential lawmaker. freshman, but very influential. michele bachmann and jim huntsman very already attended similar appearances with tim scott. the last time he was here was at the tail end of his announcement. the crowds there were far beyond what the campaign expected. packed town halls and big meet and greets. he's going to try to continue that momentum and work on some of those lawmakers. >> when we talk about perry