to reason with martinez, scher phoned and asked him to return items he had taken from the house. >> i said, well, are you going to give me back -- are you bringing back all the windows at least and all the lumber and everything? he says, "hell, no. i'm bringing back nothing." he said to me, listen, if you bug me, i'll come there and i'll kill you, so don't just mess around with me, you don't know who you're talking to. >> richard martinez is a deceiving, conniving crook. >> chris jackson says he's also a victim of contractor richard martinez. >> he's a congenital liar. >> moved by the same sob story that martinez had given brian scher, the jacksons hired martinez to pour a foundation and build a frame for a house. >> he'd been in an accident where he had broken his neck and he's in a full halo bolted to his skull. and you know, your heart goes out to him. and you're thinking, boy, this guy could really use the work. >> fortunately, jackson says, he realized that the work martinez