in federal and state and local governments." it comes as republicans come -- >> what's that? >> what? >> what's that? >> i'm kidding -- >> you start laughing. >> smiling. >> guess what, small businesses, you know what they want? they want regulatory relief and tax relief. you talk to small business owners, and you can shoot the piano player if you want to. >> i'm not. i'm smiling. >> they'll tell you -- >> it's a morning ohio is. >> -- morning show. >> you do it with a sneer. >> i'm sorry. i should be perky. >> you ask 1,000 small business owners, regardless of their ideology, what do you need now, they will say the tax relief and regulatory relief. and you can mock them if you want to. that's how you get them back to work. you're smirking -- >> i was not. i was smiefling in-- smiling a kantor's -- >> i understand. >> thank you. >> maybe they should do something about it. >> i think that what's -- what a lot of people are hoping is that president obama, i think, has