managers who are getting a lot of guidance. they're in touch them. they say that fem. is standing by with materials in raleigh. that can be brought here immediately as soon as the storm passes. if there are problems between them, i haven't heard it. in fact, i think it's opposite. under the new fema we have now, the head of the program in florida where i'm paced and saw his activities, they seem to be moving smoothly. they're getting the message out to people. stating what the threat is here and getting people's attention. seems like it's coordinating fairly well. the only problem is they can't force people to leave and they can't convince as many people as they would like to leave. they have to live with what they've gotten. it looks like it's going fairly well given that. >> the gut instinct of the people who are diehards that don't want to leave, what are they saying they expect irene is going to bring?