does not believe in god, so in 2012, democrats may do well not to allow republicans to offer the only interpretations of the define. joining me now, president and ceo of common cause, bob edgar, a former congressman and a former general secretary of the national council of church e es christ in the u.s., thanks for joining me tonight. >> it's great to be with you tonight. >> so what do you think of the thes thesis, are democrats taking the right approach by not mixing religion and politics? and by the way, i get why there's an impulse for it, but it seems the republicans are the only ones who get to claim the define on their side. >> well, i think since the 1970s when i served in congress and the religious right led by jim and tammie baker and the tell advantage lists and other had a similar marriage with ronald