ex-ex-explicitly -- >> direct to corn and soybeans, used to produce mostly junk food. talking incorrect subsidies because we all pay each other's health care costs. the sicker we are, the more we're paying for it and ignoring the cost to the environment that these kinds of crops are creating. >> it all makes sense to me. one thing strikes me as a critical problem in your theory. if i want to raise money to run for president, i have to do well in the iowa primaries. if i don't do well in the iowa primary, i cannot create the optics of momentum that allow me to go to other states in order to accumulate the funding to move forward. in order to do well in the iowa primary, i must be in favor of corn subsidies. >> well, it's a problem. i mean, i agree, it's a problem. i'm not a political analyst. but there actually are farmers, farm bureau representatives, even big farmers who say let's