there's never been a serious debate. it's been automatic. both parties have been engaged in cheap demag oumpb gery. now the republicans say -- that's wrong. anti-democratic. it should not be permitted at all. >> they represent the people that sent them there? >> they didn't elect 100% of the house or 100% of the senate. when you have people who have a strong view as they do, you have people on the other side who control the senate and white house with an equally strong view you push your side as hard as you can. but you have to compromise. what you don't do is blackmail the country and say we'll