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they couldn't find a boat to take them to the island. so it took them that extra time again. so 90 minutes after the first calls were received and after the shooting began, that's when the police finally made it to the island. and of course the question is how many lives could have been saved if they'd been able to act more quickly. it's a bit early, by the way, for those questions to be actually dealt with because of course this is a nation dealing with this tragedy, in mourning. but at the same time those are are questions that will have to be answered seriously. >> oh, yeah. you know, martin, this man has admitted to what he did. he has yet to take responsibility for it, saying that he's going to talk about this in court and explain why he did it. but i want to take up an issue and have you clarify something you reported. my producer nick actually looked into this. that the maximum punishment in norway for any crime is 21 years in prison. if convicted, the 32-year-old suspect would be back on the streets when he's 53 years old. i'm taking that directly from your report. that's got a lot of us here in the studio thinking, are you

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