laws sprouting up across the country represent the perfect money machine. >> joining me now is andrew gillam director of leadership program at the people for the american way foundation. thank you for joining me tonight, andrew. >> thank you for having me, lawrence. >> andrew, i am a half alert political observer. how is it this group could exist since 1973 and i'm just hearing about it today? >> it's an amazing phenomenon. alec has been around since 1973 and has been an integral part to the web of conservative organizations being pushed by you've already mentioned the koch brothers, but also well known foundations on the right, the bradley's the coors, and the koch brothers in. alec's case they have over 300 corporate, private entities who come together, assemble, create